in michigan, the unemployment rate over 13% and governor jennifer granholm even has a tax amnesty project. more on this, governor granholm joins us live here in washington. good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> you bet. >> your state, it's really tough. what are you doing? >> well, we are really leveraging what the president has done with the recovery act. and you know, when i watch what's happening politically across the country, the debate about should we spend, should we not spend, when and how do you attack the govebudget? i have cut more out of spending as a governor as a percentage. >> what happened to this summer of recovery? it was the o 'bummer of recovery. >> i can tell you michigan is an example of a state that has smartly used that. so for example, two days ago we had the opening of a battery factory to produce the batteries for the electric vehicle. that's one factory. there are 16 companies that are producing batteries now in michigan. that wouldn't have been here but for the recovery act but the 16 companies are going to be creating 62,000 jobs. that's spending. rig